Friday, February 20, 2015

Broken Antique Brass Reflector Type Floor Lamp with Cluster and Mogul Socket Repaired

The mogul cluster floor lamp is kind of complicated, but highly versatile. The 3 way mogul socket is capable of  burning a 3 way mogul bulb with 100, 200, or 300 watts. The cluster with a two circuit switch can burn 3 - 60 watt bulbs (together or as a single, double). The single bulb might be nice for relaxing, double bulbs for tying shoes, triple bulbs for reading. Add the mogul socket and you can land personal aircraft or signal a vessel lost at sea. You have a lot of options.

A customer brought this patient in the other day and complained it wasn't working. Most lamps have a simple cord, switch, and socket. This reflector type floor lamp was much more complicated with a cluster, three keyless sockets, a two circuit rotary switch and mogul socket. With so many different bulbs and switches, we add some bulbs to see what is and what is not working. At this point we are not sure what lamp parts are needed for this repair.



There is no power to any of the bulbs. We need to inspect the wire and trace down where the power is failing to connect. We start by removing the bulbs and the candle covers from the keyless sockets.



Next we open the cluster of the lamp and look at the wiring in the cluster.




With the mogul socket removed we test it using a spare cord and some alligator clamps.



So we now know that with power the mogul socket works properly. We turn our attention to the two circuit switch. Using an OHM meter we test the switch.

This switch has two circuits: four possible options
1) Off
2) Circuit A (keyless sockets 1 + 2)
3) Circuit B (keyless socket 3)
4) Circuit A+B (keyless sockets 1, 2, and 3)

With the OHM meter touching the wires we rotate the switch and make sure all 4 options are working as they should. In this case they are working. We feel like there might have been a bad connection in the wire nut to the rotary switch. We will start putting the lamp back together using the same parts. Since we feel like the two circuit switch was a potential problem, we write the date we tested the switch for reference.




We group the wires from the keyless sockets together and mark them with a pen. The two circuit switch is connected to the keyless socket wires. Two sockets to the blue line and one socket to the red line. The black line on the switch connects to the lamp cord with the plug.




Next the mogul socket is wired back to the lamp. It connects directly to the lamp cord with the plug. Note: The mogul socket has a switch so we do not want it on the two circuit switch. It is never a good idea to have two single pole switches on a single circuit.




Before closing the cluster and after the wire nuts are safely in place, bulbs are added and the lamp is plugged in for testing.



Knowing all the wiring is correct and working, the cluster is closed.



This lamp is ready. Total cost $0.00 Total Time: 30 minutes.



31 comments:

  1. I have this very same lamp: I have rewired it and need help to determine where to find the right size bulbs to fit the three "candle" lights that have the 4" tall sleeve?

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    1. The three bulbs are standard E26 bulbs. It's the center bulb that's tougher to find.

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    1. I just go this lamp free from an estate sale. Doing some research it values between $75.00 and $500.00. That being said my Grandaughter may not get this for her starter apartment.

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  3. What is the easiest way to clean this type of lamp to mhm ake the base & stem shine?

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    1. Spray wax or armor-all works good for me on brass

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  4. I used your instructions. Thank you!

    http://shallowthoughtsfromiowa.blogspot.com/2019/03/antique-reflector-type-floor-lamp.html

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  5. I have this exact lamp. One of the arms has broken in the middle. How do I replace it? Or must I replace all 3? And how?

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  6. How do you attach a lampshade to this?

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  7. Just got one myself and super excited to restore it I’m in need of 3 way mogul socket arms they are broken also mine has a light underneath it. Not sure the year and model hope someone may help.

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  8. Hi. My Mom has this lamp as well. One of the arms has broken near where it attaches to the body. Can it be said weed?? Or is there a chance of buying a replacement? Thanks!

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  9. Can anyone advise the additional wiring step that includes a small light at the base of the lamp; a night light of sorts? thanks

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  10. Typically the bottom light has a switch on the base of the floor lamp. With its own switch, you can tap the wires from the plug. Smooth wire is for the hot or black and ribbed wire for the white or neutral wire.

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  11. Does the mogul need to be replaced to accomodate LED lights, as that is the way all lighting has gone now. I've been restoring this same lamp and my concern is using a bulb that is led in any of these light sockets. Thank you.

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    1. You can get an adapter that screws in to the mogul socket so that the socket will take a new LED bulb with a regular (E26) base.

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    2. Correct. The Mogul is an E39 and the standard bulb is E26, so the adapter is E39 to E26.

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    3. Yeah, this is great news, really didn't want to have to replace. Thank you guys so much for the quick reply!!!!

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  12. Would I need to do the same for the smaller bulbs around the outside? I'm guessing not.

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  13. The smaller bulbs on the lamp in this article are already E26 sockets, so no adapter needed.

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  14. if you use an adapter E26 you will loose the 3 way capability of the E39 mogul

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    1. Correct neither E39 nor E26 have 3 way.
      But E39D and E26D sockets do have 3 way ability.
      Hope that helps out if you choose to search again for the correct parts.

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  15. Hi there!

    I've got a very similar lamp, except without the center light. Just three candle style ones. I replaced the E26's but it won't work and all the wires in the cluster are brown so I can't tell what's what. Do you have a wiring diagram of some kind so I can just redo all this? Thanks!

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  16. I have a similar lamp but on the end of each arm is a clear plastic piece on a spring. I'm confused and haven't found any images of the exact type.

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  17. We have a similar lamp with old wiring. It works as is but I worry about how brittle the wiring has become. Can we just use standard lamp wire?

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  18. How do I replace the porcelain mogul socket on a stiffel floor lamp

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  19. You have beaten yourself this time, and I appreciate you and hopping for some more informative posts in future. Thank you for sharing great information to us. Epoxy Flooring

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  20. have rewired and in my family have had many of these type

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  21. Where can I get parts? I have this lamp that has been in my family for years, and I’m trying to restore it... the only thing that is broke is the break under the three lights.. also the globe is missing.. any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
    My email is teresa@dougselectrical.com

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  24. I'm needing 2 adapters ( 2 lamps...) for a 3 way mogul socket, to a 3 way standard bulb. I'm wanting to use a new LED 3 way bulb in my lamp. the big mogul bulb puts out so much heat, it cooks my plants.....

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